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Two Traveling Angels

Postby mirjana » Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:26 am

I love this little story. It reminds me how often it happens that we can judge the situation or a person because of that how things seem to be, which the way they are is not necessarily.

Two Traveling Angels

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Two traveling angels stopped to spend the night in the home of a wealthy family. The family was rude and refused to let the angels stay in the mansion's guest room. Instead the angels were given a space in the cold basement. As they made their bed on the hard floor, the older angel saw a hole on the wall and repaired it. When the younger angel asked why, the older angel replied..."Things aren't always what they seem".
The next night the pair came to rest at the house of a very poor, but very hospitable farmer and his wife. After sharing what little food they had the couple let the angels sleep in their bed where they could have a good night's rest.
When the sun came up the next morning the angels found the farmer and his wife in tears. Their only cow, whose milk had been the their sole income, lay dead in the field. The younger angel was infuriated and asked the older angel "how could you have let this happen!? The first man had everything, yet you helped him," she accused. "The second family had little but was willing to share everything, and you let their cow die."
"Things aren't always what they seem," the older angel replied. "When we stayed in the basement of the mansion, I noticed there was gold stored in the wall. Since the owner was so obsessed with greed and unwilling to share his good fortune, I sealed the wall so he wouldn't find it. Then last night as we slept in the farmers bed, the angel of death came for his wife. I gave her the cow instead. Things aren't what they seem." Sometimes that's exactly what happens when things don't turn out the way they should.
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Re: Two Traveling Angels

Postby Sabina » Sat Apr 03, 2010 4:02 pm

That's a variation of the good old "You never know what it may be good for", why what happened is good. It's a nice story, provided we agree that the same thing, when taken to an extreme, can be seen as an invitation to be passive about one choices and life in general.

You see, some people read or hear a spiritual story and then only use it to justify laziness, a passive attitude towards important things. Quite similar to the (mis)interpretations of the what you resist persists quotation. I have met such people, so I speak from experience.

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Re: Two Traveling Angels

Postby mirjana » Sat Apr 03, 2010 5:51 pm

Of course Sabina, But, it is like that. Everything in life is a personal choice. Personally I shall be grateful if somebody points something to me that has escaped my attention. But there are people who do not like it. In this age and having a nice experience of variety of actions and reactions I came to the point to say what I think that should be said but I shall not push things in any way as I realized that it doesn't bring anything. Not to mention that I used to have experiences of pushing things and then realizing that (like in the story of two angels), I was a young angel in my understanding and was not aware of all things involved (it was not possible to be), but still I acted like knowing all and everything. Such realizations do not belong to my dearest.
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Re: Two Traveling Angels

Postby Ryan » Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:47 pm

I am sorry... but it was only the young angel that didn't see things... the older angel made things happen a certain way based upon knowledge of each situation. The older angel didn't kick back and watch how things were going to happen... it covered the hole, it traded the life of the cow for the farmer's wife's life... the angel wasn't passive at all... it made things happen based upon it's assessment of what is right and wrong in each situation.

The story simply says that a person outside of the action might not be able to judge the situation accurately but if given the chance it can be explained.
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Re: Two Traveling Angels

Postby mirjana » Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:48 pm

Ryan wrote:...
The story simply says that a person outside of the action might not be able to judge the situation accurately but if given the chance it can be explained.


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Re: Two Traveling Angels

Postby Alvino » Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:34 am

Ms Mirjana,

I read that you would like others to bring things to your attention
which you may not be aware of:
Are you aware you are four different persons.
1. THE Mirjana you know you are

2. The Mirjana I know Ryan knows you are

3. The Mirjana that BOTH you and Ryan know you are

and 4. THE Mirjan NEITHER you or Ryan know you are.


Doggone it I am always making mistakes
PLEASE KORRECT MY MISTAKE the PARTY OF THE SECOND PARTY
SHOULD BE or REALLY IS SABINA not Ryan
KINDLY REPLACE Ryan's name with the korrect SECOND PARTY
thank you
Neithr Angel knew who or what the OTHER Angel was...
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Re: Two Traveling Angels

Postby Alvino » Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:38 am

The story simply says that a person outside of the action might not be able to judge the situation accurately but if given the chance it can be explained.

I LOVE what Ryan wrote because it opens up
a chance for me to ASK ONE SIMPLE QUESTION
that FEW people have ever been able to answer for me.

THE HORSE BROKE ITS LEG.


THE question is WHAT HAPPEN?


IF YOU CAN ANSWER THIS you will see MIRJANA IS CORRECT
IN her clarification of WHAT HAPPEN in the two angel s story
as she said IT IS SIMPLE to identify what happen in the story
this is for RYAN TO PONDER......
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Re: Two Traveling Angels

Postby mirjana » Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:55 pm

Alvino wrote:Ms Mirjana,

I read that you would like others to bring things to your attention
which you may not be aware of:
Are you aware you are four different persons.
1. THE Mirjana you know you are

2. The Mirjana I know Ryan knows you are

3. The Mirjana that BOTH you and Ryan know you are

and 4. THE Mirjan NEITHER you or Ryan know you are.


Doggone it I am always making mistakes
PLEASE KORRECT MY MISTAKE the PARTY OF THE SECOND PARTY
SHOULD BE or REALLY IS SABINA not Ryan
KINDLY REPLACE Ryan's name with the korrect SECOND PARTY
thank you
Neithr Angel knew who or what the OTHER Angel was...


No, Alvino, I am not. It seems that yo, just over few visitings here in this forum know me better, or know me so well that you even know that I am multiplying. Interesting phenomenon. I wouldn't mind if you would be able to explain what have you meant by that?
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Re: Two Traveling Angels

Postby Alvino » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:35 am

Mirjana , I listened and heard your request,
please know I am showing you high Respect
by replying with a question and Request:

Please think about finding an answer to this question:
WHAT YOU ARE NOT. thanks

I think you wrote, NO ALVINO, I am Not....

I believe that if you build an answer by thinking about What you
are Not = you will know what I meant by the foolish views I posted
about the four different persons that I AM and every one is.

The honest Truth is I do not know what I meant by what
I said. Amen.
It is possible that this personal experience might be relavent
to what I posted.
The other day I knew I was a PERSON WITH A NON POISONOUS
SNAKE in my hands that I had captured on my farm.
But then I say Ricky a real farm raised boy in a field and I carried
the snake to him out in his field. Ricky KNEW that I was
a man with a POISONOUS SNAKE in my hands
SO i was the PERSON I KNOW I AM
and Ricky knew I was a different Person.

I hold this man in awe for his farm boy knowledge so when
he informed me OF the real truth about the snake
I became A third person = the man who BOTH Ricky and
I know I was.

added I catch all rattlesnakes I see on my land and move them
to a place further away from people
SO I knew for years that I was a very considerate to lower animals
person UNTIL someone who knew more about snakes then I do
informed me that SNAKES are very much like humans
THEY HATE CHANGED Environments so I may have been
doing more harm then good to the snakes I carried far away
from their familiar HOMES.

Yes, Mirjana you are not a person who continously MULTIPLIES
who you are BUT EACH AND every day I learn several KNEW
things about WHO AND WHAT I AM SO I, al ruiz,
do constantly muliply the Roles that I am in this life.

I was FAR, FAR away from being a "GRANDFATHER" despite the Fact
that I had elemantary age grandchildren BUT MY bossy, very bossy
daughter who is much wiser then I am = bugged me and bugged
into become a real "GRANDFATHER" to her two children and
two nephews. So I begin to go fishing with them and I hate fishing
AND INSECT HUNTING with them and GETTING muddy, very muddy
with them, and SNOW SKING WITH two of them (without falling
on medium hills ) and doing much much more with them.
Now they have a Grandfather a real grandfather whom they
want to live forever . In fact, they believe Grandfather Allllllllllllll
will live to be far over 100 years old.
6 yr old Tiana went running to her parents one day to annouce
she had FINALLY FIGURED OUT what Life was all about.
she said first my parents are born then they marry then they
have us children and then GRANDMA and grandpa s DIE
and then the children = her ) get married then their parents
my daughter son etc DIE and then the children have children
and they MEANING her brother and cousins die and
THEN ALL THAT WILL BE LEFT ALIVE WILL
be HER, TIANA AND GRANDPA AL.
SHE begin to study the life cycle because her beloved grandma
died and her husband has two feet and the grave and my
EX WIFE her third grandparent had elziembes
so NONE OF THOSE three could play with her and my
other 3 grandchildren LIKE Grandpa Al can.

Again I have to be HONEST = all my grandchildren want me for
is to MAKE FUN OF ME to laugh a LOT AT ME.

Two months ago I wrote to my 12 yr old grandson in Utah
that the cops - the law was after me for three different
Lawsuit type actions = a city code violation, a Water Board/
company violation and someone was taking me to arbrition
with city officials claiming I took 4000 dollars of his furniture.
I wrote to ask him to COME FROM UTAH TO HELP
me represent myself IN the court hearing
as he had done several times before when I had him
speak on my behalf to a Judge at court hearings

MIRJANA , I found out THROUGH MY grandson's
CRUEL response to my request for his HELP.

He wrote back GRANDPA AL, the cops in San Antonio
must really be BLIND if they could find only
THREE VIOLATIONS that you had committed.

the meaning of this is HE , the second party KNEW THAT
I AM A CROOK type citizen and I MYSSELF KNOW i AM A SAINT.
or anyways THAT WAS WHO i thought I was
until he told me who or what HE knew I was.

One grandson flew 1500 miles from Ohio all by himself
to visit me last year = REALLY to work for me
for 800 dollars for 16 days work and the other one Kris
will GOD WILLING fly about 1600 miles by himself
from UTAH to come to visit me.

I am very open minded and I READILY CHANGE my behavior
but when Kris was preschool he stayed with me
several hours every Sunday = church time for HIS parents
ea sunday he would come in his best clothes and
each Sun his MOTHER would find him ALL MUDDY
and dirty from Playing with Grandpa Al
rolling down dirt piles etc.
she would lecture me and ORDER me never to let him
dirty again BUT EACH SUNDAY = the same scene
after their Church.
then one day she brought EXTRA CLOTHES FOR him
to visit with me and TOLD ME WHY she did this
SHE begin to comply to her husband about this
MEAN grandpa Al etc. She told me my son
said to her =
I HAVE KNOWN my dad (al) all my life and one thing
I can tell you for sure = YOU CAN TELL MY DAD
100 times to do this or that BUT HE WILL NEVER
DO as you say = so I suggest that you think
about Changing yourself.
Because you will never get my dad ALBINO to change.
yes my name is ALBINO on my birth certificate
but one day in elementary school I dedided to CHANGE IT
SO i did.

what did i mean by this LONG NONSENSE report

I mean that I WAS A PERSON WHO WOULD quickly
change my behavior to satisfy others or to show
that I cared for others BUT MY SON knew me
as a FAR DIFFERENT PERSON.

Mirjana, I love to tell folks I never know what I mean
and I really love to tell folks PLEASE DO NOT PAY ATTENTION
TO WHAT I say because ALL I SAY IS NONSENSE.

MS MIRJANA, your BEING FOUR different persons is TRUTHFULLY
PURE NONSENSE that came out of ALVINO's confused Mind.


so you ARE KORRECT when you responded THAT YOU ARE NOT THAT.
and I was WRONG about who you are just like the SECOND
ANGEL WAS WRONG about who and what the FIRST ANGEL was.

when he KINDLY REPAIRED THE HOLE IN THE WALL for the
GREEDY rich hosts and
when this CRUEL ANGEL ALLOWED THE COW TO DIE
even the HOSTS WERE very poor and might starve to death
without the DEAD MILK COW..
Can you imagine that it might be true that my daughter in law PROBABLY thought
I was a quasi devil because I allowed her son to become muddy
IF YOU have time to IMAGE a little more
GUESS OR IMAGINE WHAT MY four year OLD BOY TYPE grandchild THOUGHT I WAS
when I let him roll down DANGEROUS dirt hills and
wade in puddles and SWIM in a USAF BASE creek
with NO SWIMMING signs around that the beavers tore down once in a while.
and when I was CRUEL ENUFF to let him believe he had
WRESTLED me to the ground in the middle of a very muddy rain puddle .

wat the heck I mite as well add = when Kris was born I told my son I would give
him 25 dollars when his son BEAT ME at something OR WON against me.
my son is not a genious like I am so he FOOLISHLY believes and constantly nags
and nags me to PAY HIM the 25 dollars because his pre school
son Beat me in a mud hole wrestling match.
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Re: Two Traveling Angels

Postby Alvino » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:54 am

MIRJANA, i believe my strongest striving in my life
has been to BE A SAINT
and I know you have made a immense and thorough study
of your own and other peoples behavior and personality
SO BOTH YOU AND I KNOW
that I am a person , a grandfather who SLIPPLED IN THE MUD HOLE
so I fell to the ground BECAUSE I SLIPPED and not because
my grandson WON the wrestling match with me
yes, my SON IS WRONG i am not a reneging person
and I DO KEEP ALL my promises =
this means you and I BOTH know I do not pay him
the 25 dollars because MY grandson did NOT WIN that match
. thanks for your support with my goal to BE A SAINT personality person.
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