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Re: Lie and Falsehood

Postby Sabina » Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:22 pm

Hi Clay,

I have a question about your current signature: "Truth is malleable....."
Do you think that truth is really malleable, or is it rather our perceptions of truth that are subject to change?

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Re: Lie and Falsehood

Postby clay » Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:30 pm

Hi, Sabina, I expected to get a query about that. And expected it might be you. =0)
I guess I could play hard-nose ans stick with the statement, but what I meant was"its my truth till Im able to see a different truth, because of my spiritual positioning at the point in time"
Please dont think that will be my position on enlightenment forever, it just was when I wrote it.
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Re: Lie and Falsehood

Postby Sabina » Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:35 pm

=0) That's perfectly alright, I just wanted to understand what you mean so I know if I have to fight you on it or not.
80S I'm just kidding....

To you it's a malleable truth, to me it is a perception of truth, both are changeable/malleable, so we agree. :)

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Re: Lie and Falsehood

Postby clay » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:21 am

Sabina-The word "malleable" i chose as it denotes manipulation by me rather than being magically "changeable"- Like I say, it may not seem appropriate tomorrow- Sleep well-Clay
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Re: Lie and Falsehood

Postby Ryan » Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:26 am

But wouldn't that be an opinion and not a truth?

Wouldn't truth be more something like:

We all live on a planet we named "Earth". Which is the third planet from the star we named "Sun". In our solar system within the galaxy we named the "Milky Way".

Wouldn't those be truths? Are they subject to manipulation by you or anybody else?
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Re: Lie and Falsehood

Postby clay » Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:01 am

Ryan- "We hold these truths to be self evident..." Yes, you are right, but this may have not been the case some time ago(Millennia past) .The truths that I struggle with are my own but may make a great difference in my interpersonal relationships. the more I am able to be true to my self, and have no qualms about my decisions, to the better Im able to sleep well at night..............which I am headed for now!,
I dont always tell the truth , but at least I know what I want to accomplish. " Do you think I look younger in this dress, Clay" "Of course, I was just thinking that, my dear!" Ill let you decide,Ryan.
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