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Re: Empathy

Postby GenerousGeorge » Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:08 pm

Good question Alvino. The answer is yes. You are still living life.....the extremes of horror and tragedy mixed with bravery, humour and the human capacity to find humour anywhere perhaps made me more alive in the experience than in many other experiences I have had.

My friend Ray Shackelford and I had 2 days off once back at base camp in An Khe, so we decided to go over to the little makeshift officers club and drink a bottle of Jack Daniels. When we got there it was locked! =0/

I told Shack...."Let's just break the lock and go on in." =0o He replied...."What if they catch us?" 80S ........... I thought about that for a milisecond and replied...."BWAHAHAHAHA!!!, what are they going to do? SEND US TO VIETNAM! =0o So laughing like lunatics, we broke the lock and found that bottle. =0@ Whenever I see him to this day we look at each other and say...."What are they going to do, send us to Nam?"

Also it is a beautiful country that we walked over so many times, in the jungles, in the mountains and near the ocean. Even with the stress of combat I enjoyed the beauty of the country and it's people.

You know, after a week in the field drinking canteen water, warm canteen water with Malaria pills crushed in it, sometimes a chopper would bring us a hot meal and once they even had a garbage can with iced soft drinks. I popped the top on a Coke and nothing, I mean nothing ever tested that good. A thousand dollar bottle of Dom Perigon back at home would not even come close. <3
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Re: Empathy

Postby Alvino » Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:12 am

Dear George or Dear Brother George,

I do not know the form or system for giving a KUDO so
please know you have earned a KUDO and hope it is recorded.


Folks see me as nuts = WAR IS FUN =
this is just one justification for their view of me.

Vietnam was stupendenously beautiful even if caused
me to be ordered to visit with head shrinkers two times.
The first time was even though I volunteered to fly
choppers into battle zones = door gunner = I still hated
the war and its beyound stupid waste or money, materials and men.
My secound year there I was Fired 3 different times; from a job in Saigon, chased off
to Danang and fired two times at Danang, finally punished by
the Danang Base Commander assigning me to Pick up trash as my sole
duty and my promotion to Captain taken from me by my unit cmdr
because I wanted to do it MY WAY.
To me all of this was FUN. I laughed at the commanders a lot.
And I will never lose the deep thrill and joy I felt at seeing the
awesome beauty of the wild life in the jungles and the view
of any part of Vietnam from the Air or of beatiful sea and
river waters. AWESOME , just awesome.
And I may be nuts but I am 98 percent certain that my
LOVE, empathy and RESPECT for all the vietnamese people
saved me from being blown up - another vehicle was blown
up although the one I drove was a much more perfect
military target. I had a long history of helping them
and protecting them in many ways.
I was very happy to read that you clearly saw the
joys one can have in a war zone, also. SEMPER FI
says it all or almost all of this part of war.
YOU MADE THE 100 percent right choice in Breaking that lock.

My first duty in Nam was to guard tons of C rations =
One very large stack was totally full when I begin guard dut
by morning only two or three Cartons remained = the rest
has been stolen (taken ) by co workers = military police.
My first night there (saigon) I got under two mattresses because
the ground was shaking due to the large guns going off
off the base, the next day i was informed they were
OUTGOING.
Oh yes, the two psychatrists determined in a few minutes
that I was correct and both said they WISHED they had
the spirit or power to say some of the things I said to my
supervisors and some Secretary of Defense gave me my captaincy and ALL BACK pay
from original date of promotion to Capt.
Thank you, Brother George, Brother in Arms.

' '' AL " San Antonio, TX = Yes, I live in HEAVEN, also.

For info only to other readers , For George and I, it is only a LOCAL PHONE CALL
if we want to call God.
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Re: Empathy

Postby GenerousGeorge » Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:34 am

Welcome home! <3
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Re: Empathy

Postby GenerousGeorge » Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:37 am

PS......the ones who say they were not affected by the war are the real crazies. Any sane person would go nuts in Nam. BWHAHAHAHAHAHHA! 80S
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Re: Empathy

Postby mirjana » Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:25 pm

mirjana wrote:

This what is presented in this video goes hand in hand with ideas presented in the Zeitgeist movie(we have this here http://www.deepspirits.com/exploration/zeitgeist-moving-forward-t849.html) showing that it is not utopia, but the opposite, the only logical continuation of our development.

Here in DS we also have some other ideas and talks about empathy here:
http://www.deepspirits.com/exploration/empathy,-sympathy-&-emotional-intelligence-t469s25.html
http://www.deepspirits.com/exploration/empathy-and-learning-t311s50.html
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Re: Empathy

Postby Sabina » Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:01 pm

I remember this video from a few months ago, I added it then to DS as well:
What Motivates Us

What does it have to do with empathy though? Note I haven't watched it again now.
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Re: Empathy

Postby mirjana » Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:42 am

There are many interesting explanations of empathy in this video., like
"The drive to belong is the empathic drive…" and so on …
It is a very nice presentation of evolution of the consciousness toward this understanding how important is to know about empathy as an important tool for changes we all need. Or at least it is my understanding. And that is the reason I put it here now in this topic.
As you said it was few months ago when you put it ( I am sorry that I forgot it). Still it was not in this topic, and this video is so good and with so many aspects that could be put in different topics to put some more light on the specific subject in talk.
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